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You can also order any of the concert photos I shot on this site. 8 x 12 glossys are only $10 a pop. Send me an email at the address on the Flying Circus link below to see more.

I have many more Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, The Who, Deep Purple, Queen, and others.

See the first upside down drummer
(Jack Valentine) As seen on VH1 Driven Motley Crue.
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See the first Mottley upsidedown drum show video...
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Windows Media Player 8megs running time 4.5 minutes

The original "Croo"
WhiteHorse's first name was spelled "Mottley Croo"

This is where it all started for Mick Mars, Jack Valentine and the band...

See a RARE 15 minute segment from the 40 min interview Jack did with Mick in 1984.

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I always knew Mick as a friend and a great guy. See a side of him nobody knows.

Little Known facts about the band:

The first Mottley gig was @ The Bath House, a Hell's Angel bar in Mission Beach Ca. sometime in early Sept of 1972. The band had no name at the time. There was occasionally a stabbing on the dance floor.

Harry unknowingly named the band Mottley Croo in Ocean Beach California Fall of 1972. The band never officially voted on the name but used it among others as an alias on occasion to hide from the local musicians union.

The band operated under the name Whitehorse in the union clubs. The band was caught and fined working with fake non union contracts to the point they had to leave San Diego and settle on the name Whitehorse. The band became Whitehorse on a permanent basis around May of 1974

Mick was not the original guitarist. We met Mick April 5, 1973. He replaced G.S. the first guitarist, and Kim Sherman, the fill in guitarist, Winter of 1973 after pretending to be David's guitar roadie so G.S. would not get wise he was being replaced.

Mick Mars and Eddie Van Halen occasionally shared the same bill as Whitehorse and Mammoth (early VanHalen) crossed paths quite often along the club circuit in 1974.

The whole band was stranded in freezing temperatures in the Mottley Van for 16 hours and nearly froze to death Feb. 25, 1974. Mick's face became frozen to the van's tile floor. Someone offered to piss on his head but we melted snow to free him instead.

Mick and Jack built the upside down drum riser to be a diversion to blowing Mick to smithereens on stage. Mick's biker buddies helped Jack finish the welding.

The first upside down drum performance on planet earth was December 23, 1974 at Big John's in Long Beach Ca.