updated, corrected and revised edition of the full story
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"Motley Rock Stories"
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I have many more Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, The Who, Deep
Purple, Queen, and others.
the first upside down drummer
Driven Motley Crue.
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Mick Mars Segment
the first Mottley upsidedown drum show video...
Media Player 8megs running time 4.5 minutes
The original "Croo"
WhiteHorse's first name
was spelled "Mottley Croo"
This is where it all started for Mick Mars, Jack Valentine
and the band...
See a RARE 15 minute segment from the 40 min interview
Jack did with Mick in 1984.
I always knew
Mick as a friend and a great guy. See a side of him nobody knows.
Little Known facts about the band:
The first Mottley gig was @ The Bath House, a Hell's
Angel bar in Mission
Beach Ca. sometime in early Sept of 1972. The
band had no name at the time. There was occasionally a stabbing
on the dance floor.
Harry unknowingly named the band Mottley
Croo in Ocean Beach California Fall of 1972. The band
never officially voted on the name but used it among
others as an alias on occasion to hide from the local
The band operated under the name Whitehorse in the union
clubs. The band was caught and fined working with fake
non union contracts to the point they had to leave San
Diego and settle on the name Whitehorse. The band
Whitehorse on a permanent basis around May of 1974
Mick was not the original guitarist. We met Mick April
5, 1973. He replaced G.S. the first guitarist, and Kim
Sherman, the fill in guitarist, Winter of 1973 after pretending to be David's guitar roadie
so G.S. would not get wise he was being replaced.
Mick Mars and Eddie Van Halen occasionally shared the
same bill as Whitehorse and Mammoth (early VanHalen)
crossed paths quite often along the club circuit in 1974.
The whole band was stranded in freezing temperatures in the Mottley
Van for 16 hours and nearly froze to death Feb. 25, 1974.
Mick's face became frozen to the van's tile floor.
offered to piss on his head but we melted snow to free him instead.
Mick and Jack built the upside down drum riser to be a
diversion to blowing Mick to smithereens on stage.
Mick's biker buddies helped Jack finish the welding.
The first upside down drum performance on planet earth
was December 23, 1974 at Big John's in Long Beach Ca.
As well as being
a world renown musician Mick is a tremendously gifted comedian.
Mick Mars hates to be out in the sun because he freckles.